Verbal Control a Treatise on the Under Explored Art of Equivoque Technique and Applications

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I was away from magic for a number of years going those things that tin can go far the manner of a neat hobby - raising a family - making a living working 6 and 7 day weeks - going to schoolhouse at dark - etc. I'1000 non complaining, that'southward just reality and I regret nothing.

Anyway, when I started back into magic, "equivoque" was everywhere. I honestly don't recall it being used in my first magic life (and I've always been a voracious reader).

Does anyone recall a seminal event or big proper noun role player that brought this into popularity?

It doesn't matter a whit, merely I've been curious.

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Probably the new popularity of mental magic/mentalism and the fact that it is seen on Television receiver a lot more nowadays has something to do with its apply.
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Not certain when you started your sabbatical, merely the term has been around for a while. The inimitable Phil Goldstein published Verbal Command: A Treatise on the Under-explored Art of Equivoque; Techniques and Applications in 1976. I take non found an earlier reference of the word/term in magic literature, but no dubiousness they exist. Since Max has had a tremendous influence on the direction of mentalism over the last forty years or more, might his usage in '76 have sparked the use of equivoque over wizard's choice? I wouldn't exist a chip surprised.

At whatsoever charge per unit it is any interesting question for those of us fascinated by such topics. When I have some time I will explore more than and encounter what I can unearth.

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    I've discussed my fashion of doing magician'due south choice in a number of my books. You gotta' starting time reading the practiced stuff!!
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The term has been used in mentalism for decades. Phil Goldstein'south booklet mentioned earlier may have been the outset booklet devoted to information technology.  A lot of the mentalism stuff has now been mainstreamed and proliferated, peek devices, volume tests etc. pretty much exploded onto the magic market as magicians tried to emulate Derren  Chocolate-brown etc.

In the magic literature, wizard's option was usually seen described as dealing with ii or 3 choices. Mentalists explored the possibilities more than. David Berglas was a master at it and I tin can recall of one blockbuster routine of his that used it in an amazing way.

There are at present books devoted to the topic.

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Not certain this proves a lot, but I checked Dennis Behr's archive and found the following.

"equivoque" was institute 170 times. Of the 170, only 10 appeared earlier 1990.


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Non sure this proves a lot, but I checked Dennis Behr's archive and institute the following.

"equivoque" was institute 170 times. Of the 170, only ten appeared before 1990.

I would recollect Denis archive may be short on mentalism lierature.

I would recall it might be mentioned simply in "Magick" magazine more than than ten times before 1990 [smile]

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Not sure this proves a lot, only I checked Dennis Behr's archive and found the following.

"equivoque" was found 170 times. Of the 170, simply x appeared before 1990.

Aforementioned results on a search of the Genii archives. Searching 1936 through latest issue, the word equivoque was used 170 times total, with only three of those citations appearing before 1990. Afterwards 1993 the use of the word begins to steadily increase. The majority of the citations listed are 2006 and later.

Based on the numbers information technology appears that Dennis Behr might've used Genii equally his source. Or at least one of them.

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Based on the numbers it appears that Dennis Behr might've used Genii as his source. Or at least one of them.

I was on a lecture on Charlotte where Dennis Behr showed the behind the scenes of his database... he enters most of the entries himself... one by one... after reading each book... I'chiliad very thankful for his piece of work

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I was on a lecture on Charlotte where Dennis Behr showed the behind the scenes of his database... he enters well-nigh of the entries himself... ane by 1... after reading each book... I'm very thankful for his work

I'll second that. Dennis has done an absolutely great chore.

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My just signal was that, considering the numbers, and the numbers alone, that Dennis Behr might've used the Genii engagement base of operations to supplement his ain. Nothing incorrect with that!
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   It's just that I adopt "magician's choice" to "equivoque." (Just as I prefer double cuts and overhand injog shuffles to passes!) I've written about my way of "handling" wizard'southward choice in a few of my books.
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I call up we should all begin using the term, "magician's equivoque".
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I recall we should all begin using the term, "wizard's equivoque".

Hahaha!!


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I think we should all brainstorm using the term, "magician'southward equivoque".

Pronounced "eh-KWEE-voh-CUE."

Of course.

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How about "equivocal forcefulness?"
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I don't mind whatsoever of the terms, so long as the usage is articulate and unequivocal . As it undoubtedly is in Force Prediction. I actually prefer Conjuror'south Choice, considering I dearest the sound of alliteration; especially in the morning. Even though information technology's non unequivocally present.

Play on words intended? [smile]

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